Martha Plimpton On The Arkansas Abortion Ban (VIDEO)

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1. Ed Bradford says:

   March 9, 2013 at 9:44 am

   Hmm, let’s see. I spend a lot of money on poor kids. I volunteer and teach them 8th grade math. I raised three kids. I worked for a living and my near family participated in food banks,
   clothing banks and social work for many years. I coached poor kids on sports teams.
   I am retired (too old to
   adopt) and continue to volunteer to teach them. I learn from teachers that
   many poor kids cannot be helped because the law will not let society separate
   the kids from the parents. Parents (almost exclusively ‘single parents’) won’t
   give kids up because they get money from the state for each kid (all 8 of them). That’s one
   reasons some women continue to have more. The number of such women is small (probably less than 5%, but more that 2%) of those on welfare. I have seen third generation welfare
   families play the game to continue to be on the state dole throughout their
   life. Their children learn the same tricks. Sadly, it is the women that must do this.
   The men give and go (so to speak). On this issue, I have no limits on tracking
   down the men and taking…

   [There's another reason some of the "unwanted" kids are orphaned.
   We, as a country have instituted many social programs since
   LBJ's "War on Poverty". None has worked. We've spent enormous
   amounts of money and poverty today is where it was when LBJ
   was elected (if it were measured by the same standard). American
   society cannot confront poverty, unwanted children and single parents
   because we are politically correct. We are blind to the truth.]

   Whether or not I have helped, is not relavant to the truth, of what I say.
   Because (in your mind) I did not do X, does not validate or invalidate the truth of
   my statement Y – unless I said “I did X”. I don’t have to solve problem Y to know
   that Y is a true statement.

   Your argument, Sharon, is illogical. Even if I was the greediest and richest person
   in the world, even if I was Scrooge himself, the truth of “life begins at conception
   and killing that baby is immoral” is independent of my behavior. I once wrote a paper while
   attending a Catholic (Jesuit) college for a morality class taught by a nun. I defended
   the concept (not the right — there is no such right) of abortion. My reasoning
   was the same as those on this thread. I wrung my hands, and said “there are too many
   people in the world; they’ll all starve. Let the women have abortions.” I got a
   B+ on the paper, but the argument I made was shallow and logically wrong.
   Yours are too. Conflate what I do with you killing a child and you just don’t get it.

   Becoming pregnant is a voluntary choice. You voluntarily create life and then
   because you think your rights are more important than those of the human
   being inside you, you destroy it.

   Sharon’s answer is to give up and kill the child. It is an unacceptable human decision
   that is well beyond sad. It is very un-American:

   “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
   equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
   rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

   These are America’s founding words. They can only sustain if all respect
   the same rights in others. (“Do unto others as you would be done by”)

   If you only believe in “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” for yourself, then you
   should not expect the STATE to defend that right. You are out of touch with the concept
   of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”.